Thursday, January 22, 2009

What Message Does This Send ??

I have to say, I don't like it.

But I am not happy with a lot that has been happening

Now we are gonna close Gitmo in a year. Will the detainees be set free, or brought to the United States ?

I watched him today sign the orders to close the place down, and also watched him end the so-called torture of terrorist's
What is Waterboarding ??

I found this video, and of all the ones I watched, it seemed the most real. I watched it 3 times, and and decided for myself that I still agree with it

Let me say that again, I AGREE WITH WATERBOARDING !

I agree with whatever it takes to keep the United States free from terrorist attacks, be it waterboarding, or wiretaps, or a marine that has just lost his friend to a sniper attack, alone in a room with a suspected terrorist.
I think Obama is wrong on Gitmo, and wrong in interfering with the questioning of terrorists, and I fear that he will make us all vulnerable to the same people that those demonstrators want to protect

I have a family to protect, and I remember what happened to us

I know it could happen again

For the ones not afraid to stand for what they believe, We are here


Josh said...

When it comes to the rappers and the "hip hop" culture, this is how I expected them to act.

I don't think I'm generalizing too much by assuming that those "rappers" haven't even the slightest clue about what's best for the country. Over 90% of "rappers" aren't intelligent enough to handle their own money - there's no way they have a clue about everyone else's.

I'm still trying to figure out how America was - and still is in some opinions - so "evil."

Even with our racist past, America presents more opportunity for ANY race - and Obama's victory wasn't needed to reinforce that fact. Jay-Z's $1000 champagne and part ownership of a BBall team and million-dollar cars should be enough of a reminder.

Off topic... kind of. Why's it the bald white guy in the infomercials for starving African children?

If hypocrites were hanged like suspected Salem witches, we'd go from around 300-mil to 200,000

The Fearless Blog said...

Excellent post. Passionate and honest. I have similar sentiments. What has happened to the rest of the "United Statesmen?" Has everyone forgotten, moved on and closed the book? Are we so easily manipulated, swayed and convinced?

We cannot appreciate what we have until we lose it. We deserve then perhaps what we get, just as many other people have cheered and welcomed new ideas, new leaders and new ways and then cried and died and regretted every moment of their blinding state.

I am worried, very worried.

Lauren said...

We may have a racist PAST but not a racist PRESENT. The cultures Obama is protecting is certainly not ours and are the very ones that ARE racist and practice those ideologies today. But what do you expect since he was brought up amongst and with them??????????????????????????????? With Al Sharpton and his movement started more than 20 years ago, the black community was systematicaly taught how horrible the US is to them and that is why you are seeing what you are seeing today. This didn't happen overnight. And we let it happen. Now how do we come together as a strong movement to change this for us and our children and the future?

Malcolm said...

Although I don't agree with everything that Young Jeezy and Jay-Z said in the video, I do understand where they are coming from. If the U.S. didn't have such a shameful history when it comes to racial equality, I doubt if Young Jeezy and Jay-Z would have reacted in that manner. If the day comes when our country elects a woman president, don't be surprised if a female recording artist responds in a similar fashion.

I am curious as to how Josh came up with his percentage in regards to which rappers aren't intelligent enough to handle their own money. If one's exposure to rap/hip-hop culture is only by watching The Fox News Channel and other media outlets that mainly focus on the negative aspects, it's easy to see why they wouldn't think very highly of it (that is rap/hip-hop culture).

Finally, the black community (or anyone else for that matter) didn't need Al Sharpton to tell us how messed up this country can be when it comes to race matters. Most of us knew that before he started his movement.

Lauren said...

Malcom's an apoligist for every bad behavior and ideology. I'd expect no different in his comments. Come see on my site this week and hear what he has to say about blaming the current generation today for the generations of the past. Malcom and his brethern could use a good learnin' or two from this guy! said...

I believe Obama could very well be tested soon by terrorists attacking the country again.

During the inauguration, several of the military personnel were being interviewed during the Military Ball. They were asked what they wanted from their new Commander in Chief.

They all replied, "Let us finish the job."

But right now, it looks as though the new administration has no intention of doing so.

Josh said...

@ Malcolm

It's a direct quote I read from either Run or DMC in Stuff magazine... albeit a while ago.

Feel free to dispute the undisputed kings of hip-hop. Rev. Run and Darryl seem to know their stuff.

Record labels give a "hot" artist money, and the artist thinks that his/her life is now set. They don't realize that money NEEDS to be repaid, so they proceed to buy houses, cars, "bling," and other useless garbage. Then after a failed record or slow tour, the rapper's in debt. And this happens to the vast majority.

As far as what I "think" about rap:

Hip-hop is a beautiful art turned tragedy. The main audience (care to dispute this?) for today's rap/hip-hop is young people, 25 and under. The problem with this demographic is they're also the same "group" that's transformed Hannah Montana, Britney Spears, and a handful of boy bands into "celebrities." Without its pop appeal, mainstream rap would wither up and die.

So when it comes to the "hip-hop" culture, it's nothing today like it was yesterday. It's pure popular culture, and it doesn't take being a certain race or born in a certain area or watching particular coverage to see the effects of gross over-commercialization.

So it's really not that I have a low opinion of rap; I basically hold the same opinion of today's rap as I hold of today's teeny bopper pop: Far too many worship at its feet.

Mike said...

Josh, where did you find this figure? "Over 90% of "rappers" aren't intelligent enough to handle their own money..."

Anyway, regarding the topic of the post I see it as sending a message of pride in one's community.

Anyway, waterboarding is torture. It is now impossible to try and convict a lot of the terrorists in Gitmo because the were waterboarded, no lawyers want to touch the cases. Treating them humanely, showing them that America treats its prisoners with dignity is the best defense against terrorism.

Malcolm said...

Lauren: It's been so long... I had forgotten how much fun it is toying with you. Actually, I don't apologize for all bad behaviour. For example, I'd never apologize for your behavior towards some of the commenters on your blog who have the audacity to disagree with you.

Josh: Thanks for explaining where you got your info. As you said, the Run or DMC quote was awhile ago so who knows if that still holds true. As for Run DMC being the undisputed kings of hip hop, I think artists such as Public Enemy and Kurtis Blow might have something to say about that. :-)

Based on your comments, you seem to be implying that money mismanagement among recording artists mainly befalls rappers. If so, I beg to differ because it's happened to countless artists outside the rap genre. Just ask artists like Billy Joel, Grand Funk Railroad, and some of the surviving Motown stars (to name a few) about financial woes that they've experienced/are experiencing.

By the way, I recently founded a blog titled Diversity Ink. The focus of the blog is race relations and features contributions from myself and several others. Feel free to stop by and join in on the discussions.

Josh said...

First off, let me apologize to you, Lot2Learn, for turning your comments page into a debate zone.

@ Malcolm:

In no way am I implying that rap is the only musical genre whose artists are not intelligent/wise/savvy/fiscally responsible enough to handle their money. But I am implying that theirs is not the "voice" America needs to listen to on political matters. And I cite rappers in general to drive that point home, simply because I highly doubt Jay-Z and the other guy are the only rappers to spread a similar message.

The post topic, of which I replied to, had to do with rappers, and that reminded me of the astonishing number of financial failures I had read about.

If it seems specific, that's because it was. I addressed the topic at hand.

When it comes to my particular views, I disapprove of most (damn near all) "celebrities" spouting off like they're connected to the people or know what's best for the country. This list includes Tom Cruise, Robert Redford, Sean Penn, Rosie, Lindsey Lohan, any popular person named Jessica, MSNBC, Bill Maher, etc X 1,000,000...

If there had been a video posted of, say, Tom Cruise bashing Bush and rallying troops to do the same, I would have cited "reasons" he and his group - for lack of a better term - aren't the best to lead the political pep rally.

My biggest pet peeve in life is hypocrisy, and I love to point it out whenever I can. The ongoing hypocritical, far-left, wing-tip celebrities bashing Bush and making the America-hating comments continue to capitalize from her citizenry and line their pockets.

My only question (particularly to rappers the likes of Jay-Z): How bad is it? What other place on Earth provides such a bizarre arena where an adult can shit where they eat so repeatedly yet still enjoy the meal?

Malcolm said...

Josh: Thanks for your detailed explanation. Although there are several points for me to address in your recent reply, I will decline because I don't want to continue our jousting in the comments section of Lot2Learn's post either. That's not to say I haven't enjoyed it.

Malcolm said...

Josh: I forgot to thank you for taking me up on my offer by participating in the discussions at Diversity Ink. I look forward to seeing you over there again.

Casey Brown-Myers said...

I think we should water board all terrorists and those enlightened liberals protesting on campus. Thank God that "peace" protester in the video got water boarded, it looks like it was his first bath that he had in months.